This anime by GAINAX (spell right?) is terrific! I am sure it is the most discussed one in China even now, although it was published in 1995. Why isn't there any discussion about that??

Umm...I think there have been at least a couple of topics about eva in this forum already. And really, if you go to any anime forum ANYWHERE, there's bound to be at least one topic on Eva. In short, I think people here have already analyzed Eva to death and aren't interested in it in the same way as others somewhere else. Of course, I could be wrong... let's see if this thread starts growing...if I feel like typing, maybe I could even give my own interpretation on the last two eps of Eva and the final minutes of End of Eva.

Evas ok. I've seen the whole thing. but I have a Friend whos obsessed with it.

Eva was a an excellent anime, but, we dont really talk about older anime on here very often. Eva is one of thoughs animes that every anime-fan should have seen. Along with a couple others cb,hunterxhunter,berserk, meh I gues im thinking of about 15, but you have to know your roots.
I know alot of kids maybe have just started watching in the past 2 years or so, theye have missed alot of good anime theye wont find on bit torrent.

I guess ill finnish that list,
classic anime everyone on this board should have seen:
-Cowboy Bebop
-Berserk
-Eva
-Escaflone <- I spelled that wrong i know
-Flame of Reca <- actualy an old anime, duno why AF-f is re-fansubing it.
-Kenshin OAV's <- A 4 episode masterpiece!!!
-HunterXHunter
-Gundam wing
-Trigun
-Lain
-DBZ <- was huge in japan and America... and france for that matter, theye must have done somthing right. Although theres alot of DBZ bashing going aound, KNOW YOUR ROOTS.

All these anime are 6 plus years old, and are better then almost anything cmoing out now.

CONGRATULATIONS!

Yeah...I liked Evangelion. I still need to see the ending movie. The last two episodes are so...rofl.

My roommate (nimeay) said it best:

"It starts out as an ok mech show and then it goes...BLBALBALBALBALBAH!"



Amen to that! XD

I think the bests one from that list is gundam wing.

Eva episodes 1-24 =

Eva episodes 25-26 =

End of Evangelion was a much better ending IMO, but still very .

I found the end of EVA EXTREMELY confusing....and somewhat annoying....it was anticlimactic in a way, because they all died..(least I think ) well I know they show them all dead but I dont know if that was real or not.... They also talked WAY too much during the end...rambling about pointless stuff and I was like..ARE YOU DONE YET??!!

Also the copies of Rei was kind of confusing too...I was like I'm such a dummy sometimes

I really have to watch it in japanese I borrowed the series from my brother and all he had was english dub..maybe watching the subs would clear some of these questions up

LOL nope.

NGE is still a turning point in anime's history though, it's important if only for that... I doubt even Miyazaki would have been played on western mainstream theaters if NGE hadnt slipped into some disney exec's thoughtspace and annihilated his preconceptions about Japanese Animation.

I saw the first or 2nd movie.........the animmation was eyecandy.....but that boy was a bastard for not helping that girl fight........I didn't really understand it.......I guess if I saw some of the series I might like it.....I still think the best thing to come out of Gain!ax is FLCL.

My roommate and I we very conbefuddled at the end of Eva.

I know I didnt understand half the symbolism and crapnot in it until we bought an issue of some anime magazine that explains everything. And now instead of being horribly and utterly befuddled...I'm just confused.

It's like..before: !!!!!

After: ...

*nods*

Does this make sense?

CONTGRATULATIONS!

Yet another anime I avoid as I don't like massive amounts of death afflicting any of the characters I get attached to.

I watched Lain and I'm still confused by a few bits of it (like why the shadows were always in red static, and why her sister just suddenly went into the depths of drooling idiocy) but it was still very good...

Although I LOVE flcl, it doesn't come close to being as crucial as NGE was to the anime industry.... Really hard to understand nowadays at 2003, but you'd have to go back to 1994, at a point where virtually all anime was derivative and disposable GARBAGE (think DBZ) and the Japanese animation industry was on the verge of the same wholesale prostitution that destroyed the American animation industry.... then along came Hideaki Anno, dragged out of retirement by the studio he founded to make the most obtuse, incomprehensible anime EVER. It really _saved_ the artform, that's no exaggeration.

I was based in japan at the time, my son was just born so we couldn't really move around much, but the effect of EVA was really palpable, at the time most older folks had abandoned anime on TV cuz it was all useless DBZ or Gundam derivatives, NGE was quite the shocker.

NGE has a lot more than cool giant mecha fights... I understand some parts are kinda boring and stuff, but every good anime NEEDS to have more than action scenes. Eva has everything, a good story, well developed characters, good music, excellent animation, and cool fights.... the only thing that still bothers me is.... who killed kaji!?!? sigh.... i guess ill never find a good enough answer for that....

Eva - definitly - you gotta see it. About the only 'mecha' (though not really mecha) anime I've every liked.

I'd differ slightly from your list [ohh-uhh, here we go!] -

Add

Akira - one of the highest-grossing anime movies, and a big influence on bringing anime to North America. It got me into anime in college, which might make me biased, but I also know it had the same effect on many other people my age. Plus, it is visually referenced in so many anime, even today. Check out the 'priest' in Full Metal Alchemist episode two, when the false Philosophers Stone goes 'rebound'. His arm gets all gnarly in an exact imitation of Tetsuo from Akira - down to the colors even!

Ranma 1/2 - {please stop throwing things} This anime also established a lot of the conventions used in current comedy and romance anime. Yeah, it's sometimes irritating, and the ending was a major letdown, but it is still massively popular world-wide.

If you wanna get real old-school, I'd add "Speed Racer" and "Astro Boy" Everybody watching anime in English should have seen at least a few of these, just to get an appreciation of the shows that proved anime could cross overseas to the English-speaking world.

Challenge:

Berserk - - I know lots of people liked this - I bought several of the DVDs myself last year. But if you didn't read the manga, it was majorly bad. Key characters are established for 25 episodes, then eliminated in a few minutes. What a waste of emotional impact! This was one manga that really should not have been animated if there was not a comitment to finish it. Had they continued animating more of the series - even not completely into the manga cycle - I would have put it right up there. As it stands, I'd say avoid it unless you want to get into the manga, too.

As for Dragonball - *which* itteration are you talking about? Z? GT? LMNOP? It's ubiquitous, but it really doesn't break any new ground. I'd give it props for getting a lot of people into anime as an art form, but Pokemon did that too. That said, I'd rather watch 4 hours of Dragonball than 4 hours of Pokemon any day.

I'm sure there's some critical shojou anime stuff I'm missing {Sailor Moon? Bubblegum Crisis?} but I'm not so familiar with that type of series.

FLCL *was* awsome - but you had to already BE an anime fan to really enjoy it. I'd add it to the 'post-graduate course' list.

Ciao!! >>> Ashoro

Well... since the topic of this thread already changed to "classic anime" I guess I'll ahve to give my opinion.. heh, I guess I agree with everything on this list but DBZ and HunterXHunter.

DBZ- Face it guys... DBZ sux, the story is lame, the fights suck and 1 out of 10 episodes is important for the plot, everything else is just a filling episode.

HunterXHunter- I read HxH manga before watching the anime. The anime wasn't so bad but the manga is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, plus... the second episode was already a filler episode .... same thing happens with one piece.

Well... I don't feel like talking about this anymore.. so.... animes I'd add to that magical happy list of anime... would be...:

-Karekano (hey... now that I think about it your list has only Shonen anime, Karekano (Gainax by the way...) is probably the best shoujo anime I've seen)
-Fruits Basket
-X (yay for CLAMP!)

Oh.... about Akira... blah.. I believe there are many anime movies better than that.. like.... yeah... I guess almost everything that belongs to Studio Ghibli (you know... the guys that made Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Totoro, etc....)

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Ok first of all I must agree with your views on Studio Ghibli's stuff. It's Great! Akira, though, does not deserve to be knocked out of the list.

Escaflowne! Now there's a great anime. Really got me going on actually looking for subs instead of watching it on tv. I don't know if u guys ever watched the dub on FOX, but I'll tell you it was ghastly. I even hated the animation! Finally picked up the sub and BOOM! one of my favorite Anime's of all time!

X, is deffinitely amazing. GREAT story, characters and action (that just about clears the board i suppose ).

Never heard of Karekano and only watched a couple eps of Fruits Basket, not enough for me to judge them.

A new and amazing series that deserves to be put on the list is Last Exile. The animation is breathtaking and the story is complex, mysterious and beautifully written. Anyone who hasn't seen it yet, GO PICK UP THE FIRST DVD (First Move) NOW!

"DBZ- Face it guys... DBZ sux, the story is lame, the fights suck and 1 out of 10 episodes is important for the plot, everything else is just a filling episode."



I bet that pissed off a alot of people... but it depends on how you look at it.
if you're looking from the cinematic viewpoint it did suck..... the part i hated the most was that noone actually "died." The best fight scene was goku vs. vegeta and the best movie was the one with dr. willow... notice these are both early DBZ.... at some point it just started sucking. I just hope Naruto doesnt turn out like that.

thats one way... if you just want some thing to watch and give you a seizure.... then it kicked ass

i always like something thats not useless in life... something that has a theme; or something that lets you reflect on it for a while

(to get back to the topic) at the very end of Evangelion i sat and thought about it for a few minutes... just thinking. man was that great.

that happend also with cowboy bebop and trigun (one that should be added). man was trigun funny.

x was also pretty bad ass

anyone watch hellsing? at some points it was just all over the place but i liked iit!

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I'll be finishing Hellsing over New Year's weekend. I'm really loving it! It is all over the place at times, but *wow*!

Back to Eva - - I read in NewType that Peter Jackosn - director of the LOTR movies - is on line to direct an Evangelion film? Anyone else heard about this?

While he did a great job w/ LOTR - I can't figure out how anybody thinks that Eva could be edited down for a film - even a three-part series of 3-hour movies. Unless they just do something "based" an Eva, rather the the story itself.

(We won't mention the issues with deciding which ending to use)

Ciao!!! >>>>>>> Ashoro

if their smart itll be based on eva.... i remember watching the x series and then x the movie; man did it suck

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